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		<title>Comment on A (Virtual) Box of Surprises by Andy</title>
		<link>http://blog.eduardovalle.com/2010/10/01/a-virtual-box-of-surprises/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 07:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article, great help for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, great help for me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Buy me ! Upgrade me ! Register me ! by @dieselpokers</title>
		<link>http://blog.eduardovalle.com/2011/12/14/buy-me-upgrade-me-register-me/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@dieselpokers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We shall see!

Interesting post!
:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We shall see!</p>
<p>Interesting post! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Buy me ! Upgrade me ! Register me ! by Alisson Sol</title>
		<link>http://blog.eduardovalle.com/2011/12/14/buy-me-upgrade-me-register-me/#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alisson Sol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 01:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is not like they don&#039;t know...
http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=106472]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not like they don&#8217;t know&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=106472" rel="nofollow">http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=106472</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Am I forgetting anything ? by eduardovalle</title>
		<link>http://blog.eduardovalle.com/2011/10/10/am-i-forgetting-anything/#comment-241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eduardovalle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Michael !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Michael !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Am I forgetting anything ? by Shilman</title>
		<link>http://blog.eduardovalle.com/2011/10/10/am-i-forgetting-anything/#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shilman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 00:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congratulations Eduardo! I&#039;m really happy for you and look forward to hearing more soon!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations Eduardo! I&#8217;m really happy for you and look forward to hearing more soon!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scientific sense and hurt sensibilities by Ana Paula</title>
		<link>http://blog.eduardovalle.com/2011/06/07/sense-and-sensibilit/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ana Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 00:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;why give some sensibilities more importance than others ?&quot;
Well, some sensibilities simply are more wide-spread than others... Sex is still a huge issue in the vast majority of contemporary societies. &quot;Sex&quot; X &quot;artificial intelligence&quot; sounds like anything but a fair comparison to me...
I don&#039;t think you were coward. Instead, you found a good compromise between respect for others&#039; sensibilities and free-expression of your views. This &quot;phenomenon&quot; is sometimes called &quot;maturity&quot;...
 ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;why give some sensibilities more importance than others ?&#8221;<br />
Well, some sensibilities simply are more wide-spread than others&#8230; Sex is still a huge issue in the vast majority of contemporary societies. &#8220;Sex&#8221; X &#8220;artificial intelligence&#8221; sounds like anything but a fair comparison to me&#8230;<br />
I don&#8217;t think you were coward. Instead, you found a good compromise between respect for others&#8217; sensibilities and free-expression of your views. This &#8220;phenomenon&#8221; is sometimes called &#8220;maturity&#8221;&#8230;<br />
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		<title>Comment on Scientific sense and hurt sensibilities by eduardovalle</title>
		<link>http://blog.eduardovalle.com/2011/06/07/sense-and-sensibilit/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eduardovalle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that everyone is entitled to their sensibilities, but I would argue that our scientific work would be impossible if we would take everyone&#039;s sensibilities in consideration (some people are deeply offended by the idea of &quot;artificial intelligence&quot;, for example). Then, why give some sensibilities more importance than others ?

But I agree with your position that those images should be used only if needed, and that&#039;s exactly what I&#039;ve told the student: &quot;Do you really need those images ? Are they essential to get your point across ? If you do, keep them uncensored; but if not, get rid of them altogether&quot;.

In the end, I was (as usual) coward and asked the committee to take a collective decision (other then censor the images, to which I was adamantly opposed): keep the images as they were, take out the images completely, or put them in a separate downloadable supplement. We&#039;ve considered the separate supplement as a good compromise between scientific truth and protecting sensibilities.

* * *

One important consideration I pointed to the student is the &quot;surprise effect&quot;. Pornography is not his mais object of study, and thus the title of the dissertation does not suggest that the reader might stumble upon this kind of content inside the work. I think that if someone opens a text titled &quot;Detecting Pornography in Videos and Images&quot;, they cannot complain if they find some examples; but if they open a text titled &quot;Video and Image Classification&quot; and on the middle of the text they find this huge porn pic, they have the right to feel somewhat betrayed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that everyone is entitled to their sensibilities, but I would argue that our scientific work would be impossible if we would take everyone&#8217;s sensibilities in consideration (some people are deeply offended by the idea of &#8220;artificial intelligence&#8221;, for example). Then, why give some sensibilities more importance than others ?</p>
<p>But I agree with your position that those images should be used only if needed, and that&#8217;s exactly what I&#8217;ve told the student: &#8220;Do you really need those images ? Are they essential to get your point across ? If you do, keep them uncensored; but if not, get rid of them altogether&#8221;.</p>
<p>In the end, I was (as usual) coward and asked the committee to take a collective decision (other then censor the images, to which I was adamantly opposed): keep the images as they were, take out the images completely, or put them in a separate downloadable supplement. We&#8217;ve considered the separate supplement as a good compromise between scientific truth and protecting sensibilities.</p>
<p>* * *</p>
<p>One important consideration I pointed to the student is the &#8220;surprise effect&#8221;. Pornography is not his mais object of study, and thus the title of the dissertation does not suggest that the reader might stumble upon this kind of content inside the work. I think that if someone opens a text titled &#8220;Detecting Pornography in Videos and Images&#8221;, they cannot complain if they find some examples; but if they open a text titled &#8220;Video and Image Classification&#8221; and on the middle of the text they find this huge porn pic, they have the right to feel somewhat betrayed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scientific sense and hurt sensibilities by Ana Paula</title>
		<link>http://blog.eduardovalle.com/2011/06/07/sense-and-sensibilit/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ana Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bold post...
Well, as a mother I think Alisson has a point. It&#039;s difficult to understand this when you don&#039;t have kids, believe me!
 Yet, I think all people have the right to have their &quot;sensibilities&quot;. Yes, we are adults and completely able to understand and cope with the professional context of such technical material, but we are human beings of our time too. 
For example,  I&#039;ve had the unfortunate &quot;opportunity&quot; to see a couple of these videos at the lab, and although I have no &quot;trauma&quot; from the experience, I&#039;m not afraid to admit that I don&#039;t feel comfortable with those videos, and would rather avoid such &quot;visions&quot; whenever possible. 
Anyway, I agree in one point: the censor bars don&#039;t prevent the shock. Maybe the best solution is to show an image just if it is completely fundamental to make a technical detail clear. If your point is to stress that your base is diverse enough, I guess that citing (in text) some situations would make it. In any case, ONE gay porn or &quot;with-oriental-people&quot; example does not prove anything, don&#039;t you think?
[]s]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bold post&#8230;<br />
Well, as a mother I think Alisson has a point. It&#8217;s difficult to understand this when you don&#8217;t have kids, believe me!<br />
 Yet, I think all people have the right to have their &#8220;sensibilities&#8221;. Yes, we are adults and completely able to understand and cope with the professional context of such technical material, but we are human beings of our time too.<br />
For example,  I&#8217;ve had the unfortunate &#8220;opportunity&#8221; to see a couple of these videos at the lab, and although I have no &#8220;trauma&#8221; from the experience, I&#8217;m not afraid to admit that I don&#8217;t feel comfortable with those videos, and would rather avoid such &#8220;visions&#8221; whenever possible.<br />
Anyway, I agree in one point: the censor bars don&#8217;t prevent the shock. Maybe the best solution is to show an image just if it is completely fundamental to make a technical detail clear. If your point is to stress that your base is diverse enough, I guess that citing (in text) some situations would make it. In any case, ONE gay porn or &#8220;with-oriental-people&#8221; example does not prove anything, don&#8217;t you think?<br />
[]s</p>
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		<title>Comment on No easy answers by eduardovalle</title>
		<link>http://blog.eduardovalle.com/2011/06/06/no-easy-answers/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eduardovalle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But that&#039;s one the main issue for an academic-purpose desktop system (at least in the data-processing intensive fields): it has to serve as front end for a lot of different systems, serving different purposes. I was hoping that the scheme of isolated Frameworks of MacOS would make it an ideal candidate for that, but --- as always --- reality seems to be more complex...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But that&#8217;s one the main issue for an academic-purpose desktop system (at least in the data-processing intensive fields): it has to serve as front end for a lot of different systems, serving different purposes. I was hoping that the scheme of isolated Frameworks of MacOS would make it an ideal candidate for that, but &#8212; as always &#8212; reality seems to be more complex&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on No easy answers by Renaud Richardet</title>
		<link>http://blog.eduardovalle.com/2011/06/06/no-easy-answers/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Renaud Richardet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, maybe you&#039;re asking OS X to be a lot of things at the same time (Linux with Macports and Windows with Parallels)...

Safari --&gt; have you tried Chrome?
Parallels --&gt; maybe fullscreen
MacPorts --&gt; yeah... maybe reinstall from scratch...

I know the pain. Hope you find a cure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, maybe you&#8217;re asking OS X to be a lot of things at the same time (Linux with Macports and Windows with Parallels)&#8230;</p>
<p>Safari &#8211;&gt; have you tried Chrome?<br />
Parallels &#8211;&gt; maybe fullscreen<br />
MacPorts &#8211;&gt; yeah&#8230; maybe reinstall from scratch&#8230;</p>
<p>I know the pain. Hope you find a cure.</p>
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